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Brutally Honest Review of ArabicPod101



UPDATE: We’ve recently put together a hugely comprehensive site covering all varieties of Arabic with HD video and audio lessons at a fraction of the cost of ArabicPod101. It’s called TalkInArabic.com.

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I always say that one of the biggest problems that Arabic learners face is the serious lack of decent material and online tools to learn from.

As one of the most widely spoken and important languages on earth it shouldn’t be an issue but it is.

It’s such an issue in fact that I’ve spent a good part of the last year working on my own project dedicated to helping Arabic learners who are in this boat (right here).

One much more established website which has grown quite a lot in popularity is ArabicPod101, one of many 101 language editions produced by Innovative Language. It’s a company that started out as JapanesePod101 about a decade ago and now has about 35 language editions including Arabic (suffixed with either Pod101 or Class101).

They recently sent me access to the Premium member content to try out and review which I was more than happy to do.

I’ve gone through the site’s content with a fine-tooth comb and fired off a few questions to Innovative Language so I can provide you with more information to make an informed decision about whether or not it’s for you.

 

ArabicPod101 dashboard at first glance

The ArabicPod101 content is divided between audio and video lessons.

When you first land on the member’s dashboard, you have a sidebar menu which you can switch between Audio and Video, and then select the level of difficulty.

The lesson content is categorized by difficulty ranging from ‘Absolute Beginner’ through to ‘Advanced’, with the addition of ‘Introduction’ content which is a basically a podcast series introducing the language, its history, culture and various other interesting (albeit not entirely necessary) information.

The categorization is a little sketchy though because it’s not entirely clear what the difference is between ‘Absolute Beginner’ and ‘Beginner’ here. There’s currently hardly any content in the ‘Beginner’ level at all so it would have made more sense to condense it all into one category.

The same is true for the ‘Intermediate’ level which contains a sub-heading for ‘Lower Intermediate’ but currently no ‘Higher Intermediate’.

Clicking on a category opens up a list of ‘courses’ which link to a list of topical lessons that correspond to a provided ‘curriculum’.

The first thing I noticed when browsing the available lessons is that the majority of the ArabicPod101 content is in the ‘Absolute Beginner’ category. There are quite a lot of entries for ‘Advanced’ level but a huge gap in content leading up to it (making it almost entirely unsuitable for anyone who’s not a complete beginner and not yet advanced either).

Every lesson on the site also comes with a detailed PDF of the lesson notes, downloadable MP3 of the dialogues, and a tool to listen to the vocabulary and audio line-by-line.

You’re able to add new vocabulary to your ‘word bank’ or to the inbuilt flashcard app.

 

There’s then a final review section with some multiple choice and written quizzes to test your knowledge of the lesson content.

Below you’ll find the responses I received from Innovative Language to a few questions I put to them as well as my own feedback/critique of the ArabicPod101 content as a follow-up.

 

1. Which dialect or dialects does ArabicPod101 use (or primarily use)?

ArabicPod101.com lessons teach Egyptian and Moroccan Arabic, as well as Modern Standard Arabic. Our lessons aim to teach useful, spoken forms of expression, so we teach dialect from an early stage.

– Innovative Language

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Teaching spoken dialects first: good.

Offering both Egyptian and Moroccan Arabic as well as MSA: great.

Not making this clear to the customer: very very bad.

When I started using ArabicPod101, the first thing I noticed and got incredibly frustrated with was that there’s no clear indication of which dialect or dialects the website actually focuses on.

It’s just ‘Arabic’.

Even after you get started with the lessons you’re often clicking on a lesson without knowing which dialect the lesson covers.

This is going to cause serious confusion for a new learner of Arabic signing up for the first time.

Once you get into the dashboard and start going through the content, you’re bouncing between Modern Standard, Moroccan and Egyptian – all of which are thoroughly different to each other (in fact it’s better to think of them as 3 separate languages rather than dialects).

So for a new learner to go through a series of lessons in say, Moroccan Arabic and then suddenly have the next series switch over to Egyptian Arabic or Modern Standard, it’s going to be confusing and make all of the content that they learned up to that point quite meaningless.

Since ArabicPod101 goes from Absolute Beginner through to Advanced, you would expect a progression that builds on earlier lessons in the same dialect but since the dialects are so different this is impossible.

My advice to Innovative Language would be to create 3 separate products – EgyptianPod101, MoroccanPod101 and perhaps leave ArabicPod101 just for MSA.

Eliminate the confusion and stop teaching three individual languages as one.

At the very least, be very clear about it before people sign up.

 

UPDATE (2017): ArabicPod101 has made significant improvements to their Egyptian dialect content

I just wanted to add this section in here regarding the dialect content on ArabicPod101 which has improved significantly since I first wrote this review.

They’ve employed a new Egyptian contributor (a girl named Peryhan) for their new video lessons.

She appears to be very active producing new Arabic lesson content. I highly recommend you check it out.

 

2. Does the content/each lesson align across all language editions? In other words would I find the exact same corresponding lessons in Russian, Japanese and so on at each level or are they each unique? If not, do the native speakers who are producing the content have freedom to choose what they’re doing?

The native speakers who create the content have a lot of freedom to choose what they teach, though we have a few standard series, such as Survival Phrases, that teach roughly the same kinds of expressions across all of our languages.

Innovative Language lessons are aligned to CEFR levels, and we typically ask that teachers try to teach to a standardized set of internal Can Do statements when preparing the dialogues and the grammar and vocabulary information.

At Absolute Beginner levels, we feel that these Can Do statements tend to be more universal (ordering food at a restaurant, buying train tickets, and so forth), so having a more standardized approach at the more beginning stages makes sense. The native speakers’ freedom to choose the most useful and relevant language skills, then, naturally increases as the proficiency level rises.

– Innovative Language

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Now, I can’t comment on the correlation between ArabicPod101 and the other Pod101 and Class101 products since I’ve never used them but the response here from Innovative Language confirms what I thought was the case.

ArabicPod101 shows that sub-contracting content creation out to numerous native speakers without stricter oversight and a more rigid structure in place can lead to haphazard course content with no clear aims or objectives.

As a language educator I know that any kind of curriculum development begins with identifying the ultimate learning outcome/aim/objective, then establishing smaller aims/objectives that lead the learner up to that final desired outcome.

A lot of the content in ArabicPod101 is fantastic and very well done, and they do provide a ‘curriculum’ which is a table outlining what each ‘course’ contains but the impression I got was that the courses are haphazard and don’t seem to follow a clear objective or learning outcome at all.

The biggest problem this leads to and the most obvious one in the case of ArabicPod101 is the variation in quality between each lesson.

Some of the audio and video lessons are excellent and well done, whereas others are quite bad and not fit for sale.

You’ll notice that some of the video is quite high quality whereas a lot of it looks like it was produced in the 1980’s for VHS with an elevator music backing track that plays louder than the voices so you can barely make out what the native speakers are saying.

The video series with Chaima, a Moroccan woman, has loads of potential and is packed full of interesting and useful stuff for Moroccan dialect learners (I actually found these quite useful myself) but it’s hard to keep up with her as she’s racing through her own notes.

If she slowed down, spoke clearly and stayed more on topic then her videos would be the best feature of ArabicPod101 without doubt.

It seems to me that the primary concern of ArabicPod101 is the number of lessons over the quality of lessons.

There are so many different hosts for the podcasts in the audio lessons too and I find this lack of continuity distracting as well as making it unclear again which dialect is being taught and by who.

Again, because of the huge difference between Moroccan, Egyptian and MSA, the content in its entirety is unusable by a lot of learners not to mention really confusing.

There are a bunch of different lessons at various levels that talk about Egypt and Egyptian culture for example which include dialogues but they’re spoken in Modern Standard Arabic (why on earth I don’t know) rather than Egyptian as you’d expect.

 

3. Does ArabicPod101 (and all of the Pod101 editions) ascribe to a particular methodology?

Innovative Language believes in practical expressions, aligned to CEFR proficiency levels, in the natural context of native speech. Most lessons, then, begin with a dialogue in which a language skill is introduced in context. The rest of the lessons then go on to talk more about the cultural context in which the dialogue takes place, and the key vocabulary, phrases, morphology, and syntax that allow the learner to carry out the particular language task.

That said, one strength of ArabicPod101.com is that it can be used with any number of methodologies. We’ve seen high-performance language learners use the site with a variety of approaches, including the listening-reading method and Alexander Argüelles’ shadowing and scriptorium methods (usually in some kind of adapted form). We believe that this is a particular strength of ArabicPod101.com in that it can meet so many different needs.

– Innovative Language

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This is where Innovative Languages gets it right.

It places an emphasis on functional, useful speech rather than heavy grammar explanations that confuse and bore the heck out of most people.

Learning to speak a language by studying grammar rules is an outdated, totally inefficient and poor way to learn any language and unfortunately most Arabic educators are still figuring this out which is why Arabic learning material is years behind other mainstream languages.

In the ArabicPod101 dashboard, you can listen to the podcast for the audio lessons (two native speakers having some banter about the topic). I personally don’t prefer to sit and listen to it because it takes too long to get to the point (I made the same criticism of TTMIK when I was learning Korean) but many people would find it helpful hearing the topic discussed casually.

You can click and listen to the Arabic dialogue directly as well which is nice.

The coolest feature in ArabicPod101 is being able to listen to the line-by-line audio and vocabulary under the Lesson Materials section which enables you to hear the new terms in isolation and then learn them in context straight away (with help from the lesson notes and transcripts).

 

4. What’s the one thing that sets ArabicPod101 apart from everything else on the market currently?

A lot of language learning tools seek to teach ‘real language,’ but everything in the products developed by Innovative Language are designed to get you speaking and using the language in an appropriate context right away. The site also offers a large and varied library of content, in both audio and video formats, which in itself offers students significant opportunities to interact with natural, native Arabic speech. Finally, a number of supporting features, such as the Core 2000 Word list, line-by-line audio tools, and even a guided learning experience under the Premium Plus subscription level, support a variety of study methodologies and styles.

– Innovative Language

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I want to make an important point on the core word list and dictionary in ArabicPod101.

They would be excellent tools if they were clear on the dialect that’s being spoken.

Again we’re getting back to the main problem with ArabicPod101 which is that it’s all over the place as far as the dialects are concerned and seriously lacking clarification.

The core word list contains MSA vocabulary but this isn’t stated at all.

I searched for a few Arabic terms that I know are quite different across dialects using the dictionary and it mostly returned results that didn’t always indicate what was being spoken. For example, words I searched for returned the translations in Standard Arabic and then provided me with sample sentences which were in Egyptian and Moroccan Arabic (they sound very different especially to a new learner and in some cases use completely different vocabulary).

This is like looking up a word in a Spanish dictionary, finding the translation in Italian and then sample sentences in Portuguese (and not telling you which one is which). Not very helpful.

The built-in flash card app with SRS is excellent. I love the way it’s been designed and integrated into the site so that new words can be automatically added.

The “large and varied library of content” mentioned here in the response by Innovative Language unfortunately neglects the fact that the majority of the content on ArabicPod101 is in the ‘Absolute Beginner’ category and therefore not varied at all.

This is fine for completely new learners of Arabic but if you’re someone with a bit of background in Arabic or above the complete newbie level then you might be disappointed to discover that the ‘Intermediate’ content contains only 6 lessons (at the time of this writing), and the ‘Advanced’ content is all spoken in MSA (with an Egyptian accent).

 

And a few final points on ArabicPod101:

I have mixed feelings about ArabicPod101 as a resource for Arabic learners.

In some ways it’s great and in other ways it’s way too shoddy, incomplete and lacking clarity for new learners.

Here are a few final points:

There are incessant annoying advertising both on site and through email spam.

Premium members still have to put up with this too which makes it even more irritating. If I’m a paying premium member to a site, I don’t want to be bombarded with ads and sales pitches, constant annoying emails and ads on top of videos that I’ve already paid for (many of the members videos have calls to ‘become a member’ – why???).

The resources page is incomplete and contains scant grammar explanations. I’m not really sure why the resource section is there in its current state.

The lesson notes, line-by-line audio and flashcard tool are the features I think are excellent and the videos by Chaima would be brilliant if she worked on her lesson delivery.

Because the language series started out as the highly successful JapanesePod101, I get the feeling that Innovative Language has taken a good idea that worked well and attempted to ‘cookie cutter’ it for many other languages. As I said above, sub-contracting this out to other people means that it’s very hard for them to keep an eye on the quality of content being produced and to maintain consistency across all languages and levels.

I would highly recommend ArabicPod101 to anyone interested in learning Moroccan Arabic since there isn’t much out there for the Moroccan dialect at present.

There’s enough material on the site for the Moroccan dialect that it is actually quite a useful and unique resource.

For MSA, Egyptian or any other dialect I would be a little more reluctant to recommend ArabicPod101 however.

If you’d like to check the material out for yourself, then you can make a trial 7 day account by clicking here.

 

Have you used ArabicPod101 or any of the other Pod101/Class101 products? 

Share your thoughts on them below.

 

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  1. I'm loving these Brutal Reviews Donavan. Keep em up.

    Also I'm glad to see your conclusions match mine when it comes to ArabicPod101. Slipping between dialects, lack of graded content, and generally slipshoddy quality of the lessons is what turned me off eventually.

    I wish more language sites, services, and products would begin to split their Arabic offerings into the dialects as you mentioned. Anyone who teacher or has learned Arabic is aware of the issue, yet marketers don't understand this is a huge source of frustration.

    A quick note that there is another arabicpod.net that is unaffiliated with arabicpod101, it can be confusing if you just search google. I've no experience with the former however.

    1. Thanks mate.

      Yea I noticed the other ArabicPod site but it looks dodgy as hell so I didn't bother with it.

    2. Hi, I just saw this comment presumably about Arabicpod.net. I have subscribed to Arabicpod.net for nearly seven years. It is really an extraordinary resource. Long ago, I chose it for concentration over arabicpod101. Arabicpod.net is reliable and well-managed, with 1-2 new podcasts each week and a full library of past podcasts (over 600 I believe) available to subscribers. The levels represented are beginner, lower intermediate, intermediate, upper intermediate, advanced, and expert. You really should try investigate it and give it a chance. You will not regret it.

  2. You’ve done a really good job of dissecting ~pod101 here. I get very frustrated with them because they’ve got some really good stuff going on but just don’t treat it with any pride, which leads to confused customers and missed opportunities.

    I used CantoneseClass101 to learn Cantonese last year and it was a god-send – lots of material and thorough lessons. However, they make the same old mistake of mixing up written vs spoken Chinese (basically Mandarin vs Cantonese), and don’t tell you what is what.

    If they had a good content manager across all platforms who really cared about user experience and outcomes, they’d have a really good thing on their hands.

    1. Thanks. Good to hear about your experience with CantoneseClass101.

      You're right that the content is great but they need someone to manage it properly and keep it uniform. Such a shame because it would actually be awesome if they did.

  3. Innovative Language podcasts are my preferred way to start learning languages–especially tonal languages–because words and sentences are sometimes pronounced very slowly and sometimes quickly. In this way, I can repeat after the slow utterances until I become comfortable with the pronunciation of a word, then start repeating after the quick utterances. In most of the ten or so of its languages I've tried out, I find the presenters fun and the dialogs interesting. However, it takes a long time for enough audio lessons to be created to be worth my while for more than a couple of months. While Japanese and Korean have an incredible number of lessons–and entertaining ones at that–most of the languages don't have nearly enough yet for more than an introduction to the language. In CantoneseClass101, which I just started studying, no new audio lessons have been produced for months, so I doubt I'll use it for very long. Fortunately, Basic Membership is not very expensive. I just don't recommend paying in blocks of more than 3 or 6 months. After a few months, I always cancel my membership and move on to more serious materials such as Michel Thomas, Pimsleur, or a textbook with audio.

  4. I totally agree with this review. I believe JapanesePod101 is worth using for Japanese, as it has a ton of content, about a thousand lessons. It is also organized and not confusing. ChineseClass101 and KoreanClass101 are also worth using, even though they have less content. But the newer 101 language websites have most content in Absolute Beginner, and are not as well organized, especially Arabic. I had the same problem with not being able to tell what dialect was in what lesson. It would be most helpful to put the name of the dialect in the series.

  5. The only reason I’m disappointed with InnovativeLanguage is that they sell the first month of subscription for 1Euro and then without telling you, they automatically renew your subscription and charge your credit card 25Euros per month! I had no idea! I instantly canceled my account.

  6. I totally agree with your review. I am a 9 month subscriber to HebrewPod.101, and most of the same applies. The vast majority of the content is on the beginner level. There is a “lower intermediate” level, but until recently, there had been no “upper intermediate”. Several people complained and they have started producing some upper intermediate lessons. Quite frankly, they sound just like the lower intermediate lessons. There are only 3 advanced lessons I believe. In the beginner series, they get into the different verb groups that Hebrew is based on, composed of three letter combinations. I thought this was way out of place for a beginner. I would have liked more basic, useful conversation elements. As far as pricing, another day, another deal. My advice is to not sign up right away. They will come up with a better offer tomorrow. And, yes, the ads are annoying and gratuitous

  7. They do have some really good content but just like you said. One minute they are teaching MSA then Moroccan. Then Egyptian. Then i don’t know what style they were teaching because of all the switcheroos. I need clarity as I want a systematic format that I can learn on and swiftly apply to understand and be understood. Very great platform, very easy to learn but that ish gets confusing. I don’t need that in my life. lol

  8. There’s a wide variety of quality and it seems like they’re getting worse. I work with the Cantonese site and the Vietnamese one. Both are languages where there are few alternatives for online podcast series. I find the old content on the Cantonese site to be much better than he new content. However, much of the content on the Cantonese site teaches standard written Chinese with Cantonese pronunciation to very low level students which makes no sense. Not only this, they don’t bother to make which content is which. Much of the earlier content, particularly the audio lessons is quite funny and listening to the podcasts can be entertaining. However, lately it seems like they’re trying to cut costs and the content is lacking in imagination.
    The Vietnamese site is worse. It’s completely boring content. It teaches mostly northern Vietnamese, which based on my experience is not what most students want to learn despite the fact that technically it’s the standard dialect. Many of the series just teach a few vocabulary words with most of the lesson in English and no dialogue. The intermediate content is really sparse despite the site being around for years. Lots of time their are errors that a quick proofreader could find like clicking on something and the wrong recording comes out. I guess for the less popular languages maybe they have to control costs, but I would never recommend the Vietnamese site if there were not few alternatives. Now I’ve found a small language school in Vietnam that produces podcasts that are much much better and in the southern dialect for a slight fee. I probably won’t renew my subscription to Vietnamese pod101.con at least not without a year’s break and checking what level the new content is because they often produce bad series I don’t want.

  9. arabicpod101.com has this mixup because it startet with “Nunya” (founding member for the arabic podcast). She started to teach the Survival Phrases and continued with the Beginner Lessons. After a while (around 2009) there were no lessons uploaded anymore on this page. Many subscribers cancelled their subscription. That is when the Egyptian Arabic started. They basically kept the old lessons and mixed them up with the new one. I personally loved Nunyas lessons and found the Egyptian episodes a bit boring. I haven’t renewed my subscription since then. But that is actually the reason why there is no seperation of the dialects on arabicpod101.com

    I have started with norwegianclass101.com and I’m quite happy with the content.

  10. I could also never figure out which dialet they were teaching and so I never joined. I visited their office in Tokyo where they do their translations. It is in a windowless, unventilated office packed with a bunch of young 20 somethings crammed in like sardines. You substitute the computers for seeing machines land have a sweatshop in any Chinatown.

  11. I’m not happy with Arabic 101.com because I realize that it said free when I went to sign up then it started to charge me so I left the site alone I didn’t bother with the site it doesn’t state to call in to cancel the your order or whatever because I didn’t order anything I signed up for a free lesson and they started charging me so I am not happy with the site not happy at all nor do I like the fact that they later state all the stuff about canceling but yet still no contact information is provided and any number you do contact is always leave us a message will get back to you?

  12. Recently tried ArabicPod101.com out of curiosity and because it seemed on the surface a good site to use being that I’m a complete novice at speaking let along reading Arabic. Upgraded to their Premium subscription for a month, though just cancelled it, and the first day or two wasn’t too bad.

    Yet one of the major points iterated in this article was one which started to bug me while I was plodding away. One moment I’m being taught some scant words in Egyptian Arabic, then after a couple of lessons I’m learning Moroccan Arabic.

    Being someone who’s already struggling to get the ball rolling and start learning effectively; having a triad of different “languages” vying for my attention was too much.

    So at the end of the day I’ve downloaded a fair bit of their PDFs, videos and audio material as a means of future reference.

    I did however applaud the option of being able to hear Arabic phrases at 0.5 speed which makes it easier for the ear to acclimatise to the Arabic sound before dialling it back up to normal speaking speed.

    Another point I found was the videos. Albeit clear and some of which were quite concise, I did find a number of them to be a little bit too “acted out” there was a sense in some the presenters were nervous, ie. from the way they looked into the camera.

    I also wouldn’t have minded a bit more diversity. Perhaps a male presenter as a foil to a female presenter, or even on the street video clips of rehearsed conversations between real-life people who volunteered to be recorded. There was a male presenter in the audio sections however I noted.

    All in all, I’d say the site is average at best and not worth forking out large sums of money. I’d be hard-pressed to recommend it to any one wanting to learn Arabic, unless they were an aficionado of certain North African countries.

  13. I came across this Arabicpod 101 on an airplane. What a disappointment. That was slang Egyptian, not formal Arabic language that is understood by 300 million people. It is so sad when you transform such a beautiful language into a weak, uneducated one. The announcer does not even know how to pronounce her own name properly (She says Hela instead of Hala). She draws conclusions about male Arabic names” that they are mostly the prophet’s name, but female names are much more abundant”. Well this may be true in Egypt but definitely not true in other part of the middle east. This whole program needs to be re-done properly.

  14. I had an idea there was something not quite right with this websites arabic – im not a beginner but im not advanced neither i have been studying MSA for a while now, and i studied Egyptian and Moroccon only for a few months, but i did notice the Egyptian arabic in these listening pods straight away with the B sound in front of some MSA words. so the vocalbury is obviously going confuse everybody and Moroccon now that is a hard dialect they speak in old berber arabic with french and msa altogether. a beginner wont be able to get his/her barnet around this mix of arabic. is there any MSA websites only just MSA. im going keep to MSA as its a proper taught arabic and its on the tv – everywhere and in every book and newspapers. you cant go wrong learning MODERN STANDARD ARABIC.

  15. Thanks for the review! I had a similar experience with another Pod101. I found a few annoying things. First of all, the constant e-mail and website spam even with a premium account. Second of all, though the vocabulary was amazing (e.g. 2000 most common words in flashcards), on the podcast side, I didn’t get the sense of a planned curriculum at play here… simply random topics that outlined vocabulary. Just like you mentioned, the levels Absolute Beginner or Beginner, etc. seemed more marketing than anything. It felt they were making clickbait worthy content.

  16. I think I’m going to go with innovative languages for Japanese using their Japanesepod101.

    What do you think of the FSI language difficulty rankings? According to the FSI Japanese is the most difficult language for native English speakers to learn. I have terrible memory problems, so I don’t know if I should even be attempting to learn a new language.

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